NOW (INTIMATELY) MARRIED TO GOD. JEALOUS? ([info]forcedmovement) wrote,
@ 2008-03-25 23:42:00
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Scene Queen Primer PART TWO!
This is it, you guys. I'm finally done. I'm so proud of it. I love these girls so freaking much, and I wanted to do them justice. I hope I did.


Part One Part One Continued

Post Breakup Audrey

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Audrey, if it's even possible, got even MORE angry and jaded after she stopped being friends with Jac.

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She apparently threw herself pretty hardcore into modeling.

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Which paid off pretty well when she started modeling (HIDEOUS CLOTHING, OH MY GOD, THESE CLOTHES ARE SO UGLY) for New York Couture.

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At some point she dyes her hair the famous pink that everyone knows and loves. Well, that everyone knows, anyways.

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She dated Escape the Fate’s Ronnie Radke for like, six months to a year between summer 2006 and summer 2007. EVERYTHING IS VERY UNCLEAR. But they dated.

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But she hasn't dated anyone since. I doubt she has the time, honestly? Half her buzznet entries talk about not sleeping, or being relieved to get a few hours of sleep.

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For the most part, she's just been modeling. She's made it to the runway, which is incredibly awesome and I'm totally proud of her.

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High fashion looks ridiculous! But she's still so pretty.

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SO FIERCE. THERE IS STILL A LION WITHIN HER!

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Sometimes lions use guns! Little known fact.

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I FIND IT HARD TO COMMENT ON THESE PICTURES BECAUSE ALL I WANT TO SAY IS "OH BABY" AND HUG HER HARD.

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It's like she's the prettiest princess at the baaaaall.

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AUDREY SPARKLES LIKE A FAIRY!

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God, she looks so pretty in black and white.

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DON'T EVEN TRY TO DENY IT.

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You guys, I already have two Skelanimals because of this girl, not to mention the insane amounts of clothing and other merch. And I really want a pink Skelanimal now. It’s so awful. I'm the kind of person that falls for subliminal advertising EVERY SINGLE TIME.

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Audrey without makeup! I STILL THINK SHE’S BEAUTIFUL. But, you know, I’m a little biased on account of being her stalker.

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Audrey was involved with Zui Suicide (from the Suicide Girls) in a project called Trashy Life from about October 2006 to August 2007. (Audrey and Zui stopped being friends. Naturally.)

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Zui is apparently continuing Trashy Life without Audrey, but I never cared much for Zui, so I have no idea what’s going on with that.

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Audrey’s own thoughts on her inability to keep friends:

im known for not putting up with bullshit and cutting people out soon as they start to pull that..(meaning "im a bad friend" or as i like to call it "someone as pathetic as you isnt going to try and fuck me over anymore") i have been trying to change my ways and give people more chances. all im doing is setting myself up for more of a let down.

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sometimes in life you have to hurt yourself. you have to put yourself in a situation you know you will be hurt in your mind and soul. certain situations in life are much like drugs, they are bad for you, causing pain and taking over your life spiritual sense... yet you still enable yourself to keep going back for more.

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i would be lying to you and myself if i said i was going to ever change.

(I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but this girl is severely fucked up, and I kind of love her for it. Hell, I seriously love her for it. I just want to sit her down and work through her issues, because I don’t think anyone ever has.)

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i can kick your ass if i need too, but i would much rather love you.

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dont think about yesterday because you will never go back.. unnless of course you find the fluxcapasitor then call me.

I think she regrets a lot. Or would if she let herself. I look at her and see this complete internal sadness and I suppose that’s why I’m able to forgive her for being so horrible to all of her friends.

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i hold no ones hand .. no one held mine and i turned out ok.
being dependant on anything is a curse.


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I love her so much, ugh. She works incredibly hard as a model, is definitely not someone I’d consider a groupie (unless dating three dudes in the past like, four years is equal to groupie status) and despite her incredibly fucked up world view, she’s still someone I have high hopes for. She’s 22 years old. She still has time to change.

BUT OKAY. Enough gushing about my Tragic Audrey.

Post Breakup Hanna Beth

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Hanna Beth continued to model! Lucky for all of us. I WOULD HAVE MISSED THIS FACE.

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She got a job modeling for Skelanimals, which she's still doing now as far as I can tell.

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EEEEEEEE FANGS UP! HANNA BETH LOVES COBRA STARSHIP TOO, BECAUSE SHE'S AWESOME.

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no one likes a girl who speaks her mind. everyone prefers someone who just sits there and listens. not me, i have an opinion about everything.. tuff love. i wear too many rings and and have a million bracelets on my left wrist. i sleep in all of them, they have become apart of me.

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CUPCAKE TATTOO! How can you not fall in love with a girl that literally wants a cupcake on her wrist forever? She's so freaking adorable.

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MAYBE HANNA BETH IS A JUNGLE CAT. MAYBE THESE GIRLS ARE ALL JUST THAT FIERCE.

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And also hot, wow.

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where do i even begin.. lately my mind has been racing, and i can't seem to get it to stop. never a dull moment.. i miss the hot summers in east hampton where i would lay in this big white room, listening to the sound of the waves crashing and the music of ryan adams. los angeles.. i can't seem to find peace.. even when i have down time, it seems fake.. i need to relax..

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Hanna Beth dated Martin Johnson from Boys Like Girls from sometime in the summer of 2007 to around November. They apparently broke up because he cheated on her, which makes me like him a lot less. SHE IS SO ADORABLE AND GORGEOUS, AND MAYBE NOW I SHALL HAVE TO SLAP MARTIN UPSIDE THE HEAD WITH A WET NOODLE.

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...okay, but they were super cute while they lasted.

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Whatever though, Hanna's too hot for him. AND ALSO GETS AN EVEN MORE ADORABLE BOYFRIEND SOON! (Spoiler!)

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Regardless of how you feel inside, always try to look like a winner. Even if you are behind, a sustained look of control and confidence can give you a mental edge that results in victory. My lips at chapped, I feel like I just ran a mile and i'm craving a peach smoothie. Good-Afternoon Los Angeles..

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BEST FACE EVER. I AM GOING TO GO DO SOME IMPRESSIONS OF THIS, EXCUSE ME A MINUTE.

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Hanna Beth is seriously just so pretty and sweet and one of the absolute cutest people EVER EVER. I love her unconditionally, guys, I really do.

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AND I LOVE HER SO MUCH WITH TRACE CYRUS. They've been dating since around January of 2008 and they're so freaking amazing. (Trace is from the band Metro Station, and is also TOTALLY HANNAH MONTANA'S BROTHER AND BILLY RAY'S SON, IN CASE YOU WERE NOT AWARE.)

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LOOK AT THEIR HATS! I HOPE THEY STAY TOGETHER FOREVER AND HAVE ADORABLY STRANGE BABIES AND ALSO MAYBE HAVE DANCE PARTIES. JUST BECAUSE I LOVE DANCE PARTIES.

Hanna Beth and Audrey

Audrey: hanna is my west coast terror twin.
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Audrey and Hanna Beth basically seemed to become best friends after they stopped being friends with Jac. THEIR FRIENDSHIP WAS WONDERFUL AND CUTE BUT IT IS NOT AS AWESOME AS JAC AND AUDREY :(

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They are, however, freaking gorgeous. So that's cool!

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They went on Warped Tour 2007 to meet and sign things for their fans. Because they're sweet! LIKE CANDY. LET ME LICK THEM.

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One thing I've hardcore noticed about Audrey is that she rarely smiles, and most of the times that I HAVE seen her smiling have been with Jac or Hanna. UH, SO I GUESS IT'S REALLY NOT GOOD THAT SHE'S NOT FRIENDS WITH EITHER OF THEM ANYMORE. Oh baby.

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They were friends with Jeffree Star for a little while! (Unfortunately. This is the biggest reason why Audrey and Hanna Beth aren't friends anymore. I'LL GET BACK TO THIS LATER.)

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It makes me so sad to look at them now. LOOK AT HOW CUTE THEY WERE. Going shopping together!

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Getting drunk together!

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Modeling together!

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...shooting things together? WELL, YOU GET THE IDEA.

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This was, unfortunately, the last thing Audrey and Hanna did together.

OKAY, SO, THE JEFFREE STAR STORY. Basically, Audrey had apparently been jealous of Jeffree and Hanna's friendship and had been keeping them apart by telling Hanna that Jeffree had been talking shit about her and vice versa. Hanna Beth ran into Jeffree at a party on Valentine's Day this year and they talked and figured out exactly what Audrey had done.

And apparently, Jac was ALSO at this party, and she and Hanna reunited and are besties again! Which is pretty cool, except for how I'm shaking my head sadly and thinking "Oh Audrey."

BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT JAC NOW!

Post Breakup Jac

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Jac continued to take (awesome, shut up) pictures of herself!

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Annnd party with her friends! (While looking SUPER CUTE!)

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And randomly hang out with William Beckett? Actually, she's pretty good friends with Beckett, and Gym Class Heroes, as far as I can tell.

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She had a cameo in a Cobra Starship video too!

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She also manufactures her own line of bracelets. (I OWN THE RUTHLESS BRACELET, I AM SUCH A SUCKER.)

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She also makes t-shirts! I do not own this. Yet.

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Although for the most part, Jac disappeared from livejournal and the scene for 2007. I assume she spent most of her time studying in college!

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Or just being a giant dork, whichever.

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But she’s finally posting more in 2008, which is awesome for me, because like, 1/4 of my time is spent stalking her!

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playing music gives you this feeling, this emotion, that nothing else can. it gives you peace, it gives you control, it gives you serenity. it makes you feel accomplished, and productive, and just...content. i don't know how to explain it, but i just feel at one with myself and the universe and the music and everything. this is just what i needed. the music will never leave you, it will never backstab you, it will never make you cry (well, you know, it won't yell at you or anything), it will always be there, ready to hug you with open arms.

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its summer and i'm living it up. i started interning at the radio station KROQ here in LA. it's great, and i'm so stoked to be meeting all the sweet people that work there. i've been hanging out with lots of new friends. distancing myself from people who brought me down. its funny how meeting such legit people made me realize how others have completely used me for who i know. being heartless and using your "friends" as steps to get further in life is going to come back and bite you in the ass. karma never fails.

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After Ryan and I broke up (what was this, like two years ago?), I started getting really emotionally attached to guys really fast. I’d rely on others to make me feel beautiful and complete. And I don’t know what it is, but over the past few months, I’ve just learned to not give a flying shit about guys. (And honestly, why would I? You're all a bunch of damn baboons.) I don’t NEED a boyfriend. I need to focus on ME. I know I’m beautiful. I know I’m happy. You don't need to tell me twice. And that’s a stupendous thing.

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JAC VANEK IS BASICALLY THE MOST BEAUTIFUL HIPPIE IN ALL THE WORLD. I could ramble on and on about how I think she's this amazing, strong person with goals and intelligence and just, everything, but. I think you can probably tell by now how I feel about her. (And hopefully you can tell WHY.) Just, *heaaaaaarts*.

Jac and Hanna Beth

Jac: I’m so happy to have Hanna back in my life. We get along so well its insane…its like we were never apart! She’s finally rid herself of so much negative energy. I feel like we all have grown and matured so much, and we’re all going in the same direction.

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Yes, that is Gabe.

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I don't know what, if anything, is going to happen in the future with Audrey. But I know that I love these girls completely, no matter what they do or how stupid they are. They're beautiful, they're human, and they deserve the best. I truly believe that.

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[info]sayingwhatiam
2008-03-26 03:59 am UTC (link)
I'M SO PROUD OF YOU BB. YOU FINISHED THIS AND IT'S AMAZING. YOU MADE ME LOVE THESE GIRLS EVEN MORE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. JUST. HEARTS TO EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY YOU.

Everything New York Couture makes is disgusting. Like, models always look ridiculous, but. Wow. They're lucky she's gorgeous.

I LIKE WHEN AUDREY PUTS FOOD ON HER HEAD. SHE SHOULD PUT A BUNNY ON HER HEAD. IDK. SHE JUST SHOULD.

...I'm sorry, I can't comment on anything because Audrey is fucking beautiful and it's distracting. Without makeup! In stupid outfits! Looking so sad I could die! BEAUTIFUL.

Trashy Life now involves Lana Jade. That makes me lol so hard. IF ZUI AND LANA BREAK UP, WHO IS TRASHY LIFE 3 GOING TO HAVE? SHANE? BRENDON IS OUT OF EXES.

Fuck, this is one of the saddest pictures I've seen in my life. Oh, baaaaaby.

Man, Hanna's life in the past year and a half has been pretty awesome. She's dated hot boys, gone on Warped Tour, modeled a lot, and been really happy. WHY CAN'T AUDREY GET THAT HAPPINESS? :(

HANNA/TRACE. I NEED SOME ICONS OF THEIR RIDICULOUS FACES, I THINK. MAYBE IN THOSE HATS. WHICH THEY GOT AT MITCHELL MUSSO'S BIRTHDAY PARTY FYI.

JAC IS SO HOT. She took so many awesome photos post-break up, which is cool. I liked her photos with Audrey better though. But whateverrrrrr.

I RAN OUT OF THINGS TO SAY. THEY'RE ALL PRETTY AND TRAGIC AND I JUST WANT THEM TO WORK IT OUT. LIKE THE SONG. EXCEPT SADDER WITH LESS DANCING AND BOYS. :(

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[info]poisonarrows
2008-03-26 04:03 am UTC (link)
Audrey would be gorgeous if she stopped trying so hard. :(

And Jac is sometimes really beautiful and sometimes really creepy-looking, and I'm hoping some of the prettier pictures are more recent.

(Oh my Godddd, Martin is a douche bag. I've met him twice, and both times I was just like, "Ughhhh. D:")

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-26 04:12 am UTC (link)
I agree. She's got the prettiest face and I love her so hard. I just wish she'd....stop. I don't know exactly what I need her to stop, but she just needs to.

The ones at the end with Hanna are pretty much the most recent! I usually always thinks she looks good, but I'm craaaazy biased.

(That doesn't surprise me at all. I AM GLAD HANNA IS WITH SOMEONE ELSE NOW.)

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[info]zeronobody
2008-03-26 04:42 am UTC (link)
You win at life. Seriously. I think Hanna is my favorite of the three. She's just so shiny and happy and yay. XD But Jac and Audrey are also made of win, so. Thanks for the hard work! I've started to look into them and this has helped so much. :D

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 04:15 am UTC (link)
EEEEEE THANKS! I'm so, so glad it's helping, that was my biggest goal in making this post!

Hanna is seriously wonderful, I don't blame you at allll for loving her the most! :D

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[info]citibyrd
2008-03-26 05:36 am UTC (link)
Wow, this picture is stunningly gorgeous.

Again, lovely picspam!!

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 04:15 am UTC (link)
I know right? They're such beautiful girls.

Thank you! <3

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[info]known_anonymity
2008-03-26 05:57 am UTC (link)
Okay, now there will be no more "who the hell are these girls I see all the time!?" questions.

Thanks so much for all the time and effort you put into it, it's a great post! I don't think I knew who Hanna Beth was. Well, I didn't know who any of them were, but I don't think I even really realized there was a third girl. But WOW is she gorgeous. Like, crazy beautiful. And I am with you 1000% on hippie Jac.

Oh, and I feel like I get a few more things that I've seen you and Kala say... starting with the yinyang thing!

Anyway, this is a really great post and it turned out so organized and pretty and flow-y... and I'm sure that people (me!) who had no idea who these girls were are totally going to find this really interesting and appreciate it. So ya, thanks again :)

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 04:18 am UTC (link)
Dude, I cannot believe you made it through all of this! Congrats!

And thank you so, so much for taking the time to look at it. I was pretty worried about how it would turn out, if I would represent the girls well enough and whatnot, so this comment was really reassuring. \o/

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[info]decoratedxerx
2008-03-26 06:44 am UTC (link)
Okay.

So I kind of have a severe obsession with Jac Vanek now.

And you know, I'm pretty sure that it was always there, simmering under the surface. BUT THIS POST, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, MADE IT EXPLODE.

She's beautiful. WHY COULDNT I HAVE BEEN BORN LIKE 6 YEARS EARLIER. BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY THATS ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR ME TO GET WITH JAC VANEK. MY AGE.

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[info]decoratedxerx
2008-03-26 06:53 am UTC (link)
Also..
her smile!
it's so GORGEOUS.
she should smile more. It makes her GLOW. Like something glowy.

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[info]affectations
2008-03-26 08:37 am UTC (link)
OMG this whole primer is AMAZING. I love all the pretty and I know all these things now that I didn't know before, I feel educated! Jac is my favourite,I think she's gorgeous and smart but you really made me see that they are all beautiful, awesome girls and why I should love them all. I love the Jac/Audrey friendship quotes, it makes me sad that they're not friends anymore.

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 04:22 am UTC (link)
Thank you so much! I wasn't sure if anyone was even going to read this post, honestly. It means the world that people are not only reading it, but absorbing information and loving these girls because of it! <333

It honestly makes me a little bit sad every single day that Jac and Audrey aren't friends anymore. I SHIP THEM SO HAAAAARD.

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[info]iamjeannebopp
2008-03-26 10:15 am UTC (link)
This is solid history. Don't be afraid if one of them finds this, kay? 'Cause I don't know how they couldn't, since this is amazingly well said and very well put together and told me more than I ever (wanted to know ;-) ) knew about these girls. It's all kinds of epic!!! TRACE AND HANNA BETH FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love them. Also I now wonder if my friend met her at the LA date for RRRGLT because she was all "Omg, Jeanne, it's Miley Cyrus here at this show!" I'm just saying.

(My icon totes doesn't match this whole thing, but whatever!.)

(also totes sorry if you get email about this twice, I saw that I spelled Hanna's name with one too few N's and had to fix it and can't for the life of me figure out LJ's comment editing.)

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 04:27 am UTC (link)
Oh god, I think I would DIE if one of them found this. I AM SUCH A RIDICULOUS FANGIRL! On the plus side, I think my entire post is less creepy than Ryan's insane stalker comments to Jac. And she dated him!

Hanna Beth and Trace are the most adorable couple. It's definitely possible that your friend met her! I bet she's completely approachable and sweet.

(I think I have enough scene queen icons for the entirety of livejournal, honestly.)

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[info]taught_to_dream
2008-03-26 02:43 pm UTC (link)
tru dat.

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[info]taught_to_dream
2008-03-26 02:47 pm UTC (link)
hahaha, can you imagine if that's all i said after all the effort you put into this? i am kidding. i love you, bb. i would not do that to you!
so, i was so excited for this, because i thought, "hey! pictures of these girls that i haven't seen before!" but. i've seen all of these? I AM APPARENTLY MORE OF A STALKER THAN I THOUGHT. D:
I feel like you did manage to get me to feel a little more sympathy toward Audrey, though? Which is difficult considering how much I disliked her, in spite of her prettiness! I am a shallow person! If you are pretty, it is difficult to get me to dislike you, okay? Audrey had some epic fail going on to get that to happen. But...the more I think about how she's probably fucked up, the less I dislike her? Ack! SEE WHAT YOU DID, SHAY? NOW I HAVE TO LOVE ALL OF THEM AGAIN! WHATEVER, JAC AND HANNAH ARE STILL MY FAVORITES. I THINK. D:

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[info]jennasaur
2008-03-26 07:19 pm UTC (link)
I love these girls so much! <3!

Jac will always be my favourite because she was my first love. She's just so smart and pretty and *hands* I can't even. I love her.

Audrey is a close second, she's so beautiful and there's something tragic about her. I'm totally with you on the hugs thing, ever time she posts a photo I can't help but be like "Oh, honey". I want to take care of her *is creepy*. It makes me seriously angry when people make fun of her spelling on buzznet or whatever. So what if she doesn't have perfect spelling and grammar?! Get over it. Anyone who posts a comment just to put someone down or make fun of them should be shot, there is no need.

I think Hanna is gorgeous but there's something about her that throws me off. I think there's more to her than she's letting on.

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 04:43 am UTC (link)
Audrey was my first love! And while sometimes Jac creeps in there with her amazing, beautiful self, I always come back to loving Audrey the most. (NOT AS MUCH AS I LOVE THEM TOGETHER THOUGH, THAT LOVE ECLIPSES THE SUN.)

I think the thing that I noticed the most with going through all of these pictures is that Audrey has slowly grown sadder over the years. It's just there, behind her eyes, and I wish she could find something that would help. (If that something is me, well then! SO BE IT!) Oh god, I HATE that people cite her bad spelling as a reason not to like her. For one thing, she updates from her sidekick a lot, and it's stupidly hard to type on one of those things. And for another, being a bad speller does not actually equal stupidity.

I totally agree that there are parts to Hanna that we haven't seen, but I can't exactly blame her. The more that people know about you, the more they can use against you.

Thank you so much for reading and commenting on this! I wasn't sure if anyone was going to care, and it makes me ridiculously happy that they do. YAY!

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[info]its_not_wrong
2008-03-26 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Hahahah I've been waiting for a primer like this for like two years. Probably more. They just all...UGH. Steal my heart. Break my heart. Whichever. Super job with everything. I learned things and saw new pics. Huzzah! I'll probably come back and reread it multiple times.

PS- Jac/Audrey foreverrrrrr. Big hearts.

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 04:45 am UTC (link)
I AM SO HAPPY THAT I COULD FULFILL YOUR NEED! Seriously, thank you. I worked ridiculously hard on this and it makes me squee that people are not only willing to read it, but are liking it and learning things and getting excited about these girls!

THEY ARE MY OTP FOREVER, NO LIE.

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[info]new_evolution
2008-03-27 12:03 am UTC (link)
Okay, I have a few things to say:

1. I'd totally do them, but I'm still a little freaked out by how skinny they are. That picture where Audrey has donuts piled on her head makes me want to shout "EAT THEM, YOU SILLY GIRL, EAT THEM."

2. Hanna Beth had a Yellow Submarine birthday cake! This fills me with glee.

3. I have some sort of perverse fascination with Jeffree Star. He's a douche, but he's an intriguing douche. Also I enjoy watching him and Davey Havok of AFI act like big ol' gaymos together. What?

4. This primer is awesome and you should post it to [info]bandgirls.

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 05:02 am UTC (link)
They are kind of ridiculously skinny. On the plus side, I've seen like eighty videos of Audrey eating, so she totally does. SHE'S JUST THE TINIEST LITTLE PRINCESS!

I definitely don't hate Jeffree Star and I suspect if I started to look into him I'd just sit there in horrified fascination the entire time. Maybe someone should do a Jeffree Star primer and entitle it "The Intriguing Douche". I would read the shit out of that.

I WAS WEIRDLY SCARED TO POST IT, BUT I DID! YAY FOR ME!

And thank you so much for reading this and commenting! My heart does a little dance of glee every time I get a comment. I consider it a victory for the girls!

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[info]sweet_like_choc
2008-03-27 12:20 am UTC (link)
Man, is it wrong that the most coherent thing I can come up to say to this is I wish I could do makeup as well as them- they do such cool stuff with their eyeshadow etc! Jealous!

(Amazing post(s) though! And I now sort of know what you're talking about when you mention them- yay! Plus, I love gossip like friendship breakups and stuff- even when I have no idea who the people are. Is that wierd?!)

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 05:06 am UTC (link)
I CONCUR WITH THAT STATEMENT THOUGH. I wish I had such awesome makeup skillz. It makes me wonder if they get some kind of scene queen manual that tells them how to do their eyeliner just right.

THANK YOU! It means so much that you read it. I think these girls are completely fascinating and wonderful, but half of bandom doesn't even really care about them. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S WEIRD AT ALL. Pretty people and drama? Who wouldn't want to hear about that?

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[info]dnetsrik
2008-03-27 05:34 am UTC (link)
Um, hi! I'm...not actually sure how I got here? I was flipping through the 9000 or so tabs I have open and suddenly, hey, a picspam! (This happens a lot, oddly. I need to keep track of my tabs.) At first I was all, "Eh, sceen queens, I don't know..." but then I started reading anyway and it turned into, "ooh, Audrey's kind of pretty!" and "Jac is adorable!" and "hahaha, Ryan Ross, you CREEPER" and then the next thing I know it's after midnight and I've read the whole thing and now I'm kind of in love with all three of them. Um, whoops?

Anyway, stopping now before I start rambling too much, but basically: thank you so much for putting this together (I'm seriously in awe of how much work this must have taken) and for giving people (and me!) a chance to love these girls. All I've ever seen is hate for them, which is pretty horrible, you know?

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 08:37 pm UTC (link)
I swear to god, tabs breed or something. I always have a million open and half the time I have no idea what any of them are.

Anyways, I appreciate this SO MUCH. I know the scene queens don't interest or appeal to a lot of people, but I was hoping that this primer would change some minds. That's the whole point! I think most of the hatred and negativity towards them comes from ignorance, so I figured if I could present them as real girls and not just as eye candy hanging off a dude's arm, they could earn some of the respect they deserve. I don't really mind if people dislike them (if we all liked the same things, life would be incredibly boring) I just wish the dislike would come from an educated point of view, not just a gut reaction to "she's a scene queen".

So basically the point of all that rambling is that comments like this honestly make my day. Thank you! \o/

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[info]lackofsound
2008-03-27 05:37 am UTC (link)
WOW. Audrey is pretty much the most fantastic girl I've ever seen. Hanna Beth is still my favourite though. But Audrey does have incredible hair. And Jac's photography is amazing, I don't care what other people say.

Seriously, thank you so much for posting this.

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 08:55 pm UTC (link)
Sometimes, no joke, I sit and just stare at Audrey's face and sigh helplessly. How does one girl get to be THAT gorgeous. IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

YAY FOR UNAPOLOGETICALLY LOVING JAC'S PHOTOGRAPHY. HIGH FIVE.

And thank you again for reading it and commenting! I put so much effort into this, it feels ridiculously good to know people are enjoying it!

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[info]inkiefingies
2008-03-27 05:42 am UTC (link)
I LOVE THIS.
LOVELOVELOVE.

Interesting Random Notes:

JEFFREE STAR IS AS TOTALLY AS BAD AS YOU SAY. Seriously. He knocked me down at an AFI show once and totally sneered in my face. Not great.

Audrey's actually really sweet, nice, and classy in person. I met her at Warped '07 and she and my mom had a fifteen minute discussion about manners and modeling.

And this is a little creepy: I know exactly where Hanna Beth's party was. It was at this place called skateland, which is in a kind of trashy part of the valley, which in case you're not from L.A., it's like the suburbs, around where California State University Northridge is.

Um, but yes. Fantastic job on the primer.
THEY ARE SO PRETTY.

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 09:02 pm UTC (link)
THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Doucheeeeebag. I have no idea where Jeffree Star's sense of entitlement comes from. He's not even CLOSE to the level of fame where you can say "Okay, he's a douche, but he's so famous he's clearly forgotten how actual people act." Which wouldn't excuse his behavior, but at least he'd have a reason for it.

That's so awesome! I've heard that Audrey is really wonderful to her fans, but it's great to hear a firsthand experience.

Psh, that's not creepy at all. Creepy is the fact that I sometimes wish I lived closer to where these girls hang out. NOT TO LIKE, BE INCREDIBLY WEIRD AND FOLLOW THEM AROUND, BUT. Just so I could see them in person sometime. I have a problem. I am aware of this.

Seriously though, thank you so much for commenting. It gives me warm fuzzies!

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[info]aillychan
2008-03-27 06:12 am UTC (link)
This is amazingly detailed, and so many pretty pictures! *is shallow*

I'm itching to open Photoshop and make myself some icons or a mood theme or something. You're okay with taking the blame for that right? Good. :)

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 09:04 pm UTC (link)
IT'S OKAY TO BE SHALLOW. THESE GIRLS GIVE US PLENTY OF REASON TO BE.

I am totally 100% fine for taking the blame. Sometimes I wish LJ would allow us unlimited icon space so I could have 100 icons of these girls. If not more. Shut upppp.

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[info]averillovessev
2008-03-27 07:03 am UTC (link)
This is amazing! Thank you for it!

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 09:06 pm UTC (link)
Thank you! MY HEART GROWS THREE SIZES EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMMENTS. I feel accomplished!

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[info]siren_mage
2008-03-27 07:45 am UTC (link)
OH MY GOD.

So, like, I've struggled with the scene queen thing for very personal reasons and I CONTINUE to struggle with the idea and concept of scene queens but what I love about this and about you is that you stripped that part away and brought Audrey, Jac and Hanna Beth as people. That completely dispelled the issues I've had that have kept me from being able to love them (except in flashes in the past, like the time Audrey and Brendon went to Disneyland fucking WHAT?! or when Jac posted a picture of Ryan and the caption simply said "mine").

I think I might actually adore these girls now. Not in the same way I adore Keltie, because she's my one and lonely dontchakno. But they're vibrant personalities going through life the same way any of us do, dealing with their drama, trying to get where they want to be, and generally being human. I really needed this in order to be able to separate them as people from the scene queen stuff that I'm still trying to work through.

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this! I really appreciate it and your love is completely and utterly contagious. I've been converted!

Possibly to the point where I want to fic them SO HARD. Like, I don't even know. If Audrey/Jac fic turns up in the next week or so and I wrote it, it's ALL YOUR FAULT.

♥ ♥ ♥

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 09:26 pm UTC (link)
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE COMMENTS EVER EVER NO LIE.

I think that people do tend to view these girls in very simplistic ways. "Audrey, she's the one with the pink hair" or "Oh Jac, she dated Ryan Ross" and very, very rarely do I ever hear discussions about scene queens where people mention Audrey's issues, or Jac's intelligence, or Hanna Beth's pure joy for life. Fandom condemns these girls for the opinions they form of them, and for the most part, those opinions are formed in ignorance. Which has always bothered me entirely too much. These girls are just people. They have so, so many aspects to their personalities. But people focus on the ugliest parts, and leave the rest out. It's unfair. It doesn't give any credit to their beauty. And this can happen with any girl in this fandom.

I FEEL LIKE I HAVE ACHIEVED MY MAJOR GOAL WITH THIS POST NOW. It's completely amazing that people are starting to like the girls more. It's absolutely incredible that my love for them can make other people love them too. But I would have been so happy if this post had simply made people realize that Audrey and Jac and Hanna are just human beings, no different than anyone else. As naive as it is, all I want is a fair trial for these girls before they get judged.

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I COULD MAYBE NOT EXPRESS TO YOU HOW MUCH IT WOULD MAKE MY LIFE IF YOU WROTE AUDREY/JAC FIC. There's barely any out there, and most of it has Brendon and Ryan pretty heavily featured. I'm almost getting to the point where I'm going to write some myself, but that would probably be disaster.

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[info]blushandrecover
2008-03-27 08:35 pm UTC (link)
I apparently danced in the vicinity of Hanna Beth (and Trace Cyrus) to Cobra Starship at a January show and had NO IDEA AT ALL. But I did keep staring at her, thinking, "Love, love her style," and the friend she was with was also all scene-y. And also I probably thought she looked familiar. ANYWAY. POINT: I wish I'd known!

Thanks for doing this so much! Scene queens are kind of my massive guilty pleasure, and all I ever hear/see about them is ridiculous and mean. Jac's photography always gets love from me; I can just sit on her site and click through for hours. I love, love that you took the time to do this. ♥♥♥

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-27 09:36 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, that's hilarious. At least you have the excuse of not knowing, though. If I saw Hanna Beth anywhere, I think my brain would shut down and I'd have to run and hide behind a pole. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH PRETTY TO HANDLE.

While I'll never understand why fandom continues to have so much hate for these amazing girls, seeing people care about this post makes me feel like there's still hope. Thank you for commenting!

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[info]kueble
2008-03-28 12:46 am UTC (link)
I JUST SPENT THE LAST HOUR AND HOWEVER LONG READING THIS AND AM GIDDY AND INSANELY HAPPY. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!

Seriously, this was just everything I was hoping it was going to be. I learned! I drooled! I possibly swooned! I can't HELP IT. GOD HANNA BETH. *shivers* Basically this is every bit as awesome as you and the girls are.

Sidenote, I totally told everyone I work with today that I want to be an internet celebrity. That's totally my new job if I ever lose like 50 pounds. lol. and figure out how to be super cute and cool.

ps - what Cobra video?

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-28 03:21 am UTC (link)
I LOVE YOOOOOU AND MISSED YOU AND I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE BACK IN TIME FOR THIS.

Thank you so much! I worked like, a gazillion hours on this Kate, you wouldn't even believe. BEST PROJECT EVER THOUGH.

Maybe we could all work together and drum up some buzz for you. "That Q-Bull rocks my socks off. Haven't you heard about Q-Bull? Oh you MUST know about Q-Bull. SHE IS THE AWESOMEST. THE NEXT BIG THING." And then you become famous, and then Hanna Beth falls in love with you. YAY LIFE.

Send My Love to the Dancefloor. She's dancing near Gabe in the big dance party at the end, and you can see just her at like, 3:25.

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[info]itsxthexgirl
2008-03-28 01:50 am UTC (link)
this was amazing enough said tyvm

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-28 03:21 am UTC (link)
Thank you so much! *bounces in glee*

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[info]hellocalamity
2008-03-28 02:48 am UTC (link)
HI, you don't know me but this is KIND OF AWESOME.

I am totally a sucker for pretty scene queens, I can't help it. I've always had an inexplicable soft spot for Jac and Audrey, but after reading this omggg love them. I had no idea how smart and well-spoken (-written?) Jac is! And AUDREY UGHHH I think she is my favorite, I just want to hug her and take her home with me. They are so tiny and precious like porcelain dolls! EXCEPT WITH PERSONALITIES! What could be better! And seriously, fandom, wtf, WHY MUST YOU HATE? THERE IS NO REASON. Just seriously, you don*t know them and your negativity is not going to affect anything anyway, why waste energy and emotion? Pointless hate will come back to you in the end, is my reasoning. (Yes, I ascribe to the Keltie Colleen school of thought, so sue me.)

Now I kind of wish I could be a scene queen so I could be friends with (/fix) them. And learn how to do their awesome makeup. And, okay, fine, meet semi-famous people. I am tiny-ish and pale, it could totally happen! I wish.

BASICALLY: A++ PICSPAM. *adds to memories*

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-28 03:34 am UTC (link)
YAY! THANK YOU!

I totally started out just being like "Oh, Jac and Audrey are pretty" and then it....developed. Er, exploded might be a better word. I CAN'T HELP IT. WELL, YOU KNOW. They're just so beautiful and amazing. AUDREY IS MY FAVORITE TOO, I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT CAME ACROSS IN THE PRIMER. SINCE I'M SO SUBTLE. *snort* For a fandom that's incredibly into pretty people with issues, I have no idea why there isn't room in everyone's hearts for these girls. I can understand looking into them and saying "Eh, not for me" but...all the hatred that I see is just ridiculous. (Psh, no suing here. Keltie Colleen's school of thought gets a gold star in my book.)

SHOULD YOU EVER BECOME A SCENE QUEEN, I SAY YOUR FIRST TASK IS GETTING JAC AND AUDREY BACK TOGETHER. Your second task can be makeup, but FRIENDSHIP FIRST.

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[info]sunkissedtramp
2008-03-28 04:13 am UTC (link)
this completed my girlcrush knowledge on all these gorgeous girls and makes me want to live in la really badly.

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-30 08:58 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, me too. I WOULD STALK THEM SO HARD. (I mean, what? Of course I wouldn't...)

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[info]forcedmovement
2008-03-30 09:06 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow, that makes a lot of sense. I don't know much about Linda Strawberry but I feel like I should definitely look into her. She seems adorable and sweet and I hope Audrey doesn't screw up this friendship.

HAHAHAHAHAH OH WOW, I DIDN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE LANA JADE IN THAT PICTURE. *starts laughing and doesn't stop*

(And you never have to be embarrassed to admit to checking buzznets daily. We're all ridiculous here!)

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